From: greatbrit Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker Subject: WSOP 2003, Days 18 & 19: Dead man's hand Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 16:54:48 -0700 Yesterday was a work day, plus I got to play my entry for the Party Poker cruise. Work went well. Then I went down to watch the end of the Limit Holdem final table, first with four left, then a little later with Kathy Liebert against John A., one of the dealers at Binion's. What a strange game, when it was still four handed John had about 60% of the chips, the other three all getting short stacked. Then this hand came up; Kathy raised, got called by the short stack. On the flop they raised three times, Kathy bet the turn and was called, she threw in her last 2,000 on the river. There was 70,000 in the pot. He still had about 20,000, he mucked! I'd love to know what that hand was. Then it was heads up and they made a small deal, but that deal meant John had about $120,000, which I imagine is a life changing amount for him, he'd already been drinking throughout the game and generally having a very enjoyable time, now he was playing crazy, practically throwing his chips away. Meanwhile Kathy stayed very focused, playing world class poker, and before not too long she had about 80% of the chips. Then they went on a break. They came back and Kathy never won another hand, 30 minutes later it was over. Off to the movies to see Confidence, very good film with the usual twists and more twists, problem is after films like Spanish Prisoner and House of Games it's tough to fool us any more. Today was the Pot Limit 2K, this is my game, however, you may have noticed I'm typing this at 4 p.m. I played great. The only hands I had for most of the day were JJ, I raised, got called in two places, and gave it up on the AAT flop, then I raised with AKo, got called by a solid player, and he bet out the low flop, I gave it up. The table was excellent, I had three super aggressive players, one on either side of me (Paul Rowe to the left, Carlos Mortenson to the right), John Juanda on the other side, two players who thought calling raises with K2s was cool, and a couple of weak tights. The problem was my stealing opportunities were slim to none, usually Carlos raised first, I could have tried a move on him but if I was wrong it would all be over, so I decided to sit it out and wait for a hand, but of my 2,000 starting chips I was now down to 850, with 50-100 blinds. My first break came when there were 5 limpers, I was on the button and called with Jx, two more limpers, flop was Jxx, checked around to the K2 lady who also liked to bluff, she bet 300, I went all in for 850, they all mucked, she mucked, I was back up to 1700. Then a few hands later I had QQ in the big blind. Paul raised UTG, I reraised, he went all in, I called, he had AKs but didn't improve, I had 3,500 chips. Then a few hands later I got AA. Carlos did his usual 300 raise, I reraised 700 more, he called. Flop was 853, he checked, I checked. Turn was a 3, he bet 500, I raised to 1,500, he moved in. I had 1,000 left, could I have gotten away from it? Probably, I knew he knew I was playing solid, I knew he had something, but the trouble was there were a lot of somethings he could have had, any overpair for sure (although I don't know if he would have bet out with an overpair, or if he would expect me to bet then he'd check raise), and he had a few more chips than me so he could even have been making a move with an underpair after I'd checked the flop, thinking I was making a move with AK. I called, he had 88, ighn. Ugh. Paul